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  What's with all the JWs unleashing the hate!?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  most of us here on jwn, while we can get a bit narky at times, can put forth intelligent arguments and sound observations.

  sure we can get bogged down with our opinions, but generally we back up our opinions with examples and evidence, and if someone has a different opinion with examples and evidence, we accept that without recriminations.

  that's what adults do.. so my question is, why in the last week or so, have a couple of posters claiming to be jws come onto this forum and berated, spewed hate and judgement, and in some cases verbally attacked members personally?

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  Black Sheep

  If you want to get somewhere with cult members, try getting them into love bombing mode and keeping them there until they leave.
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  Wife update

  by problemaddict in

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  if you want the short version, scroll down to "short version".. .

  so i am at 1200 posts or so (only about 6 were probably of note), and i still havenlt told my story and probably won't for some time.

  basically, i was a born in who has served in other countries, as an ms, and given talks etc... my wife and i were in foreign language, have co's we have counted as close family friends, and were basically the golden boy and girl of their respective areas.

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  Black Sheep

  Nice
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  BiIG AWAKE CHANGE IN THE 90's and past changes.

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

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  hello all this is my first post i've been having many doubts with all this "bright light" not changes lately... and with past changes such as this one not sure if i can post this but i guess i'll find out :.

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  Black Sheep

  Welcome to the forum AJ
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  Jeremiah 29:10

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. bible

  the verse in the jw bible says "at babylon" but so does all the king james versions so what gives, and how does one find the proper translation of this scripture.

  also what in your opinions is the most acurate translation of the bible?.

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  Black Sheep

  What is the NNWT 0.1 translation of Jeremiah 25:12? How does it fit with 29:10 in the KJV and NNWT 0.1?
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  The Smoke and Mirrors of the Annual Meeting

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the annual meeting seems to boil down to an opening talk about an "exciting new" bible museum and a closing talk about an "exciting new" new world translation.

  sandwiched in between were the wt summary, a talk about indoctrinating the children fast/furious, and some "trip down memory lane.".

  why would this "spiritual feast" seem to be anticlimactic?

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  Black Sheep

  I don't know what's going on in my Dad's head after yesterday's AGM, but he ain't a happy chappy and he's really feeling his age.

  Praying for Paradise, and all he gets is another Bible?

  Can't see the goal posts any more?
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  The Smoke and Mirrors of the Annual Meeting

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the annual meeting seems to boil down to an opening talk about an "exciting new" bible museum and a closing talk about an "exciting new" new world translation.

  sandwiched in between were the wt summary, a talk about indoctrinating the children fast/furious, and some "trip down memory lane.".

  why would this "spiritual feast" seem to be anticlimactic?

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  Black Sheep

  Grey is cheap this year so it'll just be a different shade
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  Recording meeting

  by Fading Begins in

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  first 30 min announcing a collection of bibles collected from r & f that is to go on display at bethel.

  also accounts of how they "miraculously" received bibles that they didn't think they could get - eg.

  geneva bible.. now - watchtower study review as there is no meeting tomorrow..

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  Black Sheep

  " ... replace an item that we were a bit iffy about... " @ 25:10
  
  So the Bible display is not comprehensive and is 'cherry picked'. I wonder which one they were 'iffy' about? It wouldn't happen to be one that they used to support their doctrine but was from a dubious, by their definition, character, now would it?
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  The Smoke and Mirrors of the Annual Meeting

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the annual meeting seems to boil down to an opening talk about an "exciting new" bible museum and a closing talk about an "exciting new" new world translation.

  sandwiched in between were the wt summary, a talk about indoctrinating the children fast/furious, and some "trip down memory lane.".

  why would this "spiritual feast" seem to be anticlimactic?

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  Black Sheep

  Die, and miss out on being part of 'The Great Crowd.
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  AGM is not streamed live, but a download.

  by SyntaxError1974 in

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  there have been several posts where individuals are asking if it is possible to hack into and watch the agm as it is streamed to the conventions.

  i say it is not streamed live like many are assuming, but a recorded download played for the audience.. why?

  a live stream has many possible points of failure.

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  Black Sheep

  Talking to a Dub who is setting it up for the local KH. It is streamed. They will be getting it at 10:00 am New Zealand time.

  New York, Saturday, 5 October 2013 at 5:00 p.m

  London, Saturday, 5 October 2013 at 10:00 p.m

  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20131006T10&p1=22&p2=179&p3=136
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  I CAN'T TAK

  by Caupon in

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  Black Sheep

  My Parents were pissed when I didn't get baptized forty years ago. They get over it. Being an unbaptized born in is a helluva lot better than being DA or DF. Never answer her questions unless she has asked you one you want. She is the one who is preaching that she has the way to your salvation, so make her answer your question and make her feel guilty for every tactic she ever uses to weasel her way out of answering your question. If you can make it only one very important question and insist on her, (not an Elder, it must be her) answering that question, honestly, you might be able to tame the beast. It worked for me. Ask a question that sends her off to find an official answer that has never been honestly addressed by the WT and never let her change the subject by any means. The more she wants to avoid that question, the more insistent you should be that it should be answered. She has to feel guilt for avoiding the question, trying to bully you, lying, using double standards, whatever tricks she uses. She has to know that you have higher standards than her. She has to know that you do not feel guilty for not being bullied into joining a church of her choice, especially if she won't honestly discuss it's doctrines/failings/whatever. I didn't say it would be easy.